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Includes places to see and things to pack! The Venetian Resort. The dealers seem bored, you can't see the deck and if you can't see the deck, how can you fully trust the game??? CSMs are bad for the blackjack player, card counter or not. DaveNJ 17, forum posts. Bellagio does not have the CSM at all of its tables, but almost all of the lower limit tables are machines. Best value? Grand Canyon West; 3. Las Vegas forums. If the dealer is using a shoe and the discard tray is many inches high, then it's ja mechanical shuffle maching and those are okay. At some point the strip tourist will hopefully rebel against this trend. Level Contributor. I never seem to hit as many hands when I play a table using them maybe subconsciously I play different either way I've bought into the stories they increase the casino's odds so I avoid them. Monorail, trams, buses and shuttles Transportation: Uber and Lyft- including discount codes Transportation: Taxis-how much does it cost for a taxi from the airport to the Strip? Members who are knowledgeable about this destination and volunteer their time to answer travelers' questions.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} What i don't like is the very thorough shuffling that the machines give to a shoe. With a view; 2. See All Las Vegas Conversations. Caesars Palace. Blackjack is different mathematically from all other casino games as it is based on what mathematicians call a dependent trial process. If this trend continues it may get to the point where you'll be asked to leave the table simply because you're not losing your money fast enough to meet the computer projections for your style of play. Blackjack is a beatable game as the odds against winning a particular hand is dependent upon what cards were played in previous hands. Seems there's just a many people out there who love them as hate them. How does it work? Some casinos I've been in lately not Vegas use machines to shuffle a shoes worth of cards decks while another shoe's worth is being played. Highland Inn. I am not a card counter, so that doesn't bother me. Transportation: what is the public transport? Hoover Dam; 2. See all. All forums. That information would be transmitted to a computer located somewhere else in the casino. Best Seller. I know they're not cheating, but there's something psychological about "feeling" the cards and that is taken away by those big black snail looking machines Mandalay has em too! Assuming the machine isn't a cheating machine - that it is just a shuffler - how could it increase the house odds??? Birthday freebies! Aside from allowing for more hands played per hour, the use of a CSM continuous shuffling machine also defeats the independent trial process and greatly increases the edge for the casino. Happy Hour listing, updated July Disabled access; mobility information; Dialysis services; Hospitals; Scooters First time visitor- what should I know? Grand Canyon 4-in-1 Helicopter Tour. Helpful information: Where is a low fee ATM? Browse forums All Browse by destination. Show More. As already stated, the number of hands per hour goes up when the dealer doesn't have to shuffle. Log in to get trip updates and message other travelers. Oh - you guys are talking about the constant shuffle machines. I also play two hands and they can't claim I am counting the deck yes this has happen to me more than once. Vegas Motel. Best US breakfast? The computer would analyze the betting patterns compared to the cards that have been played. Valuables Leisure: Golf Nightlife: Bars and lounges- 1. View Hotel. Top questions about Las Vegas. If it's only a couple of inches high and usually empty , and the dealer is extracting cards directly from the maching, then it's a CSM. The constant shuffling machines CSM prevent the card counters from getting any kind of edge, because the casino is now dealing incredibly shallowly. So the casino makes more money. Each card in the deck would either contain an RFID chip or otherwise be read by a device at the time the card is pulled from the shoe. Ask a question. Dining: what is "Open Table"? Watch this Topic. One easy way to tell which type of shuffle machine is in use is to look at the card discard tray. Coming next is the use of RFID chips and tables that calculate check totals and play analysis in real time. How best to visit the Grand Canyon in one day? I hate em! NitroDog 17, forum posts. View all hotels. It's used not only to defeat the card counters but also to defeat any advantage a player may gain from casual observation of a lot of high or low value cards having been played in previous hands before the deck or shoe is exhausted. Report inappropriate content. Related: What are the most popular tours in Las Vegas? Top 10 things to do and see Money saving tips! They are as bad as playing at a table where a blackjack pays and are to be avoided unless you prefer paying the casino more of your money than you have to. It's a small device embedded within a check chip that radiates a low-powered radio wave when electronically excited by a scanner. People watching; 3. Is it dependable? {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}I hate those things and it takes all the fun out of it. PnSfromLA 9, forum posts. The reason the casinos like them is simple more hands per hour because they don't take the time to shuffle. Re: Blackjack shuffle machines. That works fine for me. The most insidious of these are the CSM and the payoff on a natural blackjack. Transportation: Airport- International arrivals- how long is the arrival process? Blackjack shuffle machines. I don't mind them myself only because for me if someone is hitting or not hitting when "their supposed to" it doesn't change the odds on the next card. I thought you meant simply machines to do shuffling. Downtown and Fremont Street- worth visiting? Most of the local players did a long time ago. Transportation- Car rental: Best deals? I will say most people I talk to hate them. Paris Las Vegas. IrishFan 70, forum posts. So you still get to work through a shoe, but you don't have to wait as long between shoes. Somewhere different! I much prefer a hand-shuffled shoe to a machine-shuffled shoe, and the CMS is much much worse in my opinion. The rest of the casino games are independent trial processes where the odds for the next play dont change, that is, are independent from, the preceding play.